Todd Bentley: “No, No, No, I’m The Worst Preacher Ever!”
You have to admire Todd Bentley in some ways. Just when you thought things couldn’t possibly get worse than yesterday’s horrible preacher you stumble across a video that makes your brain cramp in ways you didn’t think possible.
Todd simply could not let the charge pass that there was someone, somewhere that was a worse preacher than he was, and therefore, he released this video to the public. Crowder threw down the gauntlet with theological imbecility forever declaring “I am the worst preacher ever.” Bentley responded “Oh no you didn’t” and picked up the challenge with spiritual arrogance that may only be paralleled in the words “I will be like the most high.” Actually, even that ancient pride is better than Todd’s; Bentley is not trying to be like the most high, he is declaring that he is stronger than the most high. Unparalleled spiritual arrogance.
And while trying to finally decide who is a worse preacher between John Crowder and Todd Bentley may be like trying to decide whether you want herpes or syphilis there is no doubt that both take insulting Yahweh to such heights that even Lucifer would stand back and say, “Dudes, that’s too much, tone it down a hair.”
Yes, he said what you thought he said but hoped he hadn’t.
When God does not show up and when God is not moving, I thank God I have a gift, and I thank God I move by faith, and I thank God when God’s not moving I move God.
I’m left wondering where the omnipresent God might be when he doesn’t “show up.” Hmmmmm. I might have to add a “Really, Really Bad Theology” category for these two clowns.
Wished I could have heard that next phrase that got cut off. Cause that’s such a wacked statement I can’t believe he meant that. I hope he was playing devils advocate metaphorically and not literally like it sounds. There’s gotta be something around that to bring context…please God let there be something around that, some kind of illustration of how that’s the wrong thing. eeesh
Surely then Todd has another rival in King David, who in Psalm 10:1,12 (an example picked more or less at random) says that the omnipresent God “stand[s] far off” and “hides [him]self”, and calls on him to “Arise” and “Lift up [his] hand”. Or could it in fact be more theologically correct than you think to call on God to show his presence and “move” in a meeting?
David just tried to leave heaven and come “smite thee” for comparing him to Todd. Luckily, a gracious Yahweh stopped him. He’s still pissed though; you may want to avoid him for a few hundred years when you get there.
Another typical Bentley defense: ignore the larger context, try some mental gymnastics over a minor point, and think that erases the majority of a point against Bentley. I was sure that you would type, “Scott, he said in the ‘form’ of a female, you have this wrong.”
Let’s test out the old LBC theology degree: Is God the prime mover? Does He move us or do we move Him? If God decides not to move can we overwhelm Him and force Him to move?
In my first critique against some of the “theology” of some persons at Lakeland I noted how similar their ideas were to those in the OT. Of course, where do we locate God is one of the oldest theological discussions, you may want to move to the right in your Bible quite a bit in thinking on that question. One tip: He’s not in the Temple anymore. Spread the word.
Scott, since you seem to have conceded the point about God’s absence from at least one place on the earth, I will concede that no human, not even Todd, can force God to move or do anything. Nevertheless, Jesus tells us to ask God to act, to move, and that he will do so. See for example Matthew 7:7-12. In that metaphorical sense, which has become almost a cliche in certain Christian circles, we can indeed move God in prayer. See for example this collection of “Prayers that move God”. And this is surely what Todd had in mind.
“And this is surely what Todd had in mind”
Careful now, or we are going to have to talk about intellectual arrogance. You cannot read Todd’s mind seeing that you are not God.
The only things I am “sure” of is that Todd does make theological errors–and that’s OK, you and I will make them as well–and defending every word is blind cultism. You really need to move beyond that.
IMHO I don’t think that’s what Todd had in mind, but seeing as I can only read and hear his words I will have to judge him with those imperfect tools. However, I’m not “God” so I won’t say that “surely” that is what he had in mind. Todd is a theological dilettante with no training and I think/guess that he is arrogant/prideful enough to think he can move God, perhaps, even when God has decided He does not want to move. I am “sure” that my mind will not change on this subject. The negative evidence FAR outweighs the alternative.
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As far as “Prayers that Move God” have you not read “And in praying use not vain repetitions?”
I’ll leave magic formulas to make God do something alone. Using contextless Scripture to make a point is fun!
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Oh, and I figured out somewhere else God isn’t: Lakeland! OK, OK. I shouldn’t have written that.
i truly dont care i mean wat does it matter just frickin preach due its ur job stop worryin about rivals
Crim,
???????? “Wat r u saying due”?
I like my advice and argumentation a little more commonsensical. Spelling and grammar usually add quality as well.
I think what he meant to say is I REmove God.
This is just recycled material…Smith Wigglesworth said the same thing in his books…then Kenneth Hagin said it to.
[Unfortunately we already knew that]
Scott, Scott, Scott… that’s why I moderate comments. You’d be surprised how many indignant people can’t spell indignant, or compose a sensible sentence. Yet, they claim, they are ‘filled with the spirit’ – but evidently it’s the spirit of ignorance.