BS Carnival XXXVII
It’s that time again… without an actual Biblical Studies Carnival we have another BS carnival:
The Biblical Studies Carnival is a monthly carnival showcasing the best of weblog posts in the area of academic biblical studies (from here on referred to as BS). Information on the carnival, and links to past carnivals can be found here.
The first BS carnival BS Carnival XXX: Triple the BS can be found here.
Without further delay:
BS Carnival XXXVII: And You Thought The Economy Was Bad…
Dr. Rexella Van Impe: Really? “Dr.” Rexella? Really? When did this happen? I mean, you can always expect her husband Jack at a BS carnival; because when it comes to BS it’s hard to top Dr. Jack’s BS. But… Rexella a doctor?
Well, if the emphasis is BS then the answer to that question is “YES!” Jack’s pulled some epic shenanigans in his day, so to suddenly “make” Rexella a doctor is really not that shocking to anyone familiar with his long and outstanding career in the field of BS, or has seen Rexella’s painfully (but yet somehow entertaining) amateurish attempts at reading the “news” while she coos as Jack talks about the world being destroyed. At their site you can read all of Dr. Rexella’s BS from past newsletters. On second thought, perhaps she is a doctor, because her writings bear the distinctive mark of a PhD in BS. Jack must be teaching her well.
Paula White: Ministry fading? Check. Bills piling up? Check. Need money badly? Check. Willing to fleece people and manipulate the gospel for personal gain? Double check! For some reason Paula gets hot and bothered by the calendar. First, she tried the Day of Atonement thing, but now she’s moved on to the first fruits. For some impressive BS check out her “teaching” on first fruits: If you really want to be blessed in 2009 then you better give your first fruits to God, and the way you give your first fruits to God is, of course, by giving your money to Paula. Oh I get it now!?!
UPDATE: The first fruits scam was run at the beginning of last year. I wonder how that worked out? 2008 seemed like a good year for most in America. Just more dilettante nonsense BS from Paula. This woman can’t go bankrupt and be off of the scene soon enough:
BS Carnival Special Consideration Award For Really, Very,
Incredibly Large Amounts of BS in 2008:
John Crowder! For an unbelievable amount of BS head on over to John Crowder’s website and be awed at his enormous grasp of BS. For ease of access his BS writings are grouped into years of publication. I’m doubting peer review: Apparently, the heavy drunken glory makes typing, spelling, and editing difficult.
However, we should ignore such pedantic issues as spelling because when it comes to BS John Crowder is Albright, Tov, VanderKam, Nickelsburg, Boccaccini, and every other scholar you can think of currently in the field of biblical studies all rolled into one enormous pile of BS! Actually his BS is even more impressive than the combined biblical studies of those gentlemen. The extent of Crowder’s BS is just staggering. (Pic from: HERE)
2008 Blogger of the Year Award for
Incomparable Skills in the Field of BS
Acceptance speech: "First of all, I'd like to thank my Todd for making this all possible...
And the winner is: Peter Kirk! Who else but the Christian Borat could take such a prestigious award?
When Todd Bentley left Lakeland under a cloud of adultery and false resurrections one would have thought that, perhaps, the posts in defense of Todd and his “ministry” would have ceased. Thankfully, for those who enjoy extensive BS the work has continued.
Take a whiff of some of this recent BS:
“I believe that at Lakeland God was testing his church, at least in the West, to see if it is ready for the next step in his purposes (here).”
That test? If some Christians were ready to abandon sound doctrine and be deceived by signs and wonders? I guess the Antichrist can come now, huh?
“While I accept that Todd has done wrong, I am not endorsing listing him among “liars, adulterers, thieves, deceivers” (here)”
Ummm… I’m confused. Todd commits adultery but isn’t an adulterer? Looks like I got some more BS to wade through at Gentile Wisdom.
“I’m sure the demons are having a field day with discussions like this, laughing aloud as they watch Christians tearing one another down and apart. These are the same ones who rejoiced in their victory of ending God’s work in the Lakeland revival, by the ancient means of sexual temptation… So these demons stir up hatred within Christians, or within those who call themselves Christians but are actually in their control, and incite them to, among other things, write hate-filled blog posts and comments (here).”
That’s right… if you disagree with Peter, are critical of Todd, disagree with the lack of theology at Lakeland err… write hate-filled blog posts it’s because you are under the influence of demons!!!!!
Pretty hard to argue with that logic: If you disagree with me you are demon possessed. At this pace we could have a repeat winner in 2009. BS like that is hard to top.
Well, that’s all for BS Carnival XXXVII. See you next time when we take it up a notch for BS Carnival XXXVIII: Even More Roman Numerals!
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I think Peter deserves the award and I am happy to see him take it.
Scott, you should get the BS award, and a libel suit, for continuing to spread the unsubstantiated allegation that Todd has committed (literal, physical) adultery. He has not admitted this, only an “inappropriate relationship”. I will not call anyone an adulterer, or a liar, thief or deceiver, unless there is EVIDENCE, and of repeated wrongdoing rather than a single incident.
Well – I guess if such an obviously honest, truthful man hasn’t admitted to anything yet…
I’m sure the money hungry around the Lakeland circus ended that cash cow, because a couple of people admitted they had high school butterflies. Seems reasonable to me.
And, well, maybe he only did it ONCE – so not really adultery either.
MAN – I need some Todd like acolytes around me.
“But juuuuuudge – he hasn’t ADMITTED to robbing the bank, and even so, he may have only done it once.”
Peter,
My mind cannot grasp your last sentence. You wouldn’t call someone an adulterer unless there is repeated wrongdoings?!?! So how many times can I commit adultery before you consider me an adulterer? I’m guessing my wife probably would disagree. Thank God you aren’t counseling men in my church either.
aaaaaanyway…..
I wish all would do Todd a favor and stop using a euphemism, he had a *sinful* relationship. I’m guessing a sinful(inappropriate) relationship with a woman that tears apart your marriage doesn’t mean they were giggling and playing monopoly backstage. And I think we can reasonably deduce that by him making the sinful(inappropriate) relationship appropriate that implies either the cessation of any relationship, but more likely in his case, slapping a marriage certificate on the destruction that is his sinful relationship. That process is best described by the wise words of Tommy Boy, “I can take a sh*t in a box and slap a guarantee on it.”
I hope and pray his “restoration process” will confront his sin(whatever that may be in detail) and that his heart would be restored back to his family.
Peter,
Seriously? Did you just reply how I thought you replied? Basically: “No, you should get the BS award.” What is this Kindergarten?
I have missed your charges of libel and callings for suits. When you pray to Todd perhaps you can bring me to his attention so that he can bring a libel charge against me, or perhaps he can just cast out the demon of hate filled blog posts. BAM! BAM! BAM!
J,
Yup. “High School butterflies”
. I can just see the handwritten note now: “I like you. X this box if Yes to inappropriate sinful relationship.”
Kyle,
Well said.
Kyle, words like “liar” and “deceiver” refer to those who do wrong habitually, not just once. I’m not sure if “adulterer” has quite the same nuance. But there is no evidence that Todd has committed physical adultery even once, I haven’t heard that anyone has fitted spy cameras in his bedroom, or even spotted him spending the night in the same room as a girl. It is all speculation and innuendo. Meanwhile I continue to use the word “inappropriate” because that is the word Todd used, and he has denied using it as a euphemism for a physical relationship.
Scott, I understand that this was meant as humour. I wish I was in the mood to reply with humour. But I consider it “inappropriate” (and that is a euphemism) to libel people under the cover of humour.
Mr. Clinton, er, Peter, do you actually read the bible or just follow the Todd? Have you read what Christ said concerning adultery?
You use the word because Todd did? Peter, Christ leveled a pretty good charge against Todd, but I guess he was demonic as well.
And really? A libel lawsuit? Don’t you Brits have anything else to do but attack freedom of speech?
Polycarp, Jesus Christ said that charges against brothers and sisters need to be established by two or three witnesses (Matthew 18:16). In this case there are none. And if you want to bring Matthew 5:28 into this, let the man who has never in his life looked lustfully at a woman (or man, or child) cast the first stone.
I’m not seriously suggesting a libel lawsuit. But if Todd wanted to pursue the matter he could probably get damages of millions from various bloggers and others who have libelled him and thereby destroyed his livelihood – at least that would be how his lawyers would present the matter. I’m not suggesting he should do this, because that is not the correct Christian response to character assassination campaigns.
Peter, I hate to feel up Scott’s comment section, but here we go. First, Todd admitted to the affair. He left his wife to move with/near the woman. Again, lust is involved. If lust is involved, their is adultery.
If Todd tried, I can imagine the audio tape that a certain reporter coming out where Todd lies about his raping of a child and his anger and lawsuit threats if information was released.
>>> “words like “liar” and “deceiver” refer to those who do wrong habitually, not just once.”
>>>EVIDENCE of repeated wrongdoing
>>> Character assasination!
oh ha ha this is so ironic but it is grievously sad. Everyone who loves truth and seeks wisdom knows Todd is a habitual liar and deceiver in numerous facets of his life, not just his marriage, which has always been the least of my and the critics of Bentley’s issues with him.
Peter Kirk refuses to look at the evidence. Why – do you hate God and truth so very much, Peter?
It aint just the adultery and all the lies about the adultery, Peter! People were saying Todd was a habitual liar, fleecer, heretic, charlatan … and provided all the evidence for it and you just aint interested and make excuses or outright lie and/or bury your hand under the sand. There is evidence of many hundreds of lies literally. That is repeated wrongdoing in anyone’s book.
Lakeland came down because of all the lies. If Lakeland- your beloved “revival” – were even 0.01% of what it was claimed to be, medically verified healings would have been provided to the media. But they were not, not one single one of them.
You have also never given me an explanation about how the Todd and Shonnah Bentley and children happy family charade on stage and the associated manifestations to do with the healing family anointing at Lakeland, has to be false – ie multiple verbal lying and lying manifestations – and this even by Dave Bentley and Todd Bentley’s own testimony, if we belive it.. And then Todd’s claims to the Wagners in June that God had healed his marriage, etc. Explain that? You cannot without facing up the fact there are repeat lies going on. THERE ARE MULTIPLE LIES EVEN IN THIS ONE SPECIFIC INSTANCE.
And as for 2-3 witness to the affair, Peter Kirk has them but ignores them. Even those from his own heretical camp – C Peter Wagner, Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, Rick Joyner, John Arnott, Robert Ricciardelli, the Fresh Fire board members etc. Your pope, C Peter Wagner said it went beyond kissing and holding hands – and that activity is bad enough and still aultery.
Also an elementary question a schoolchild should be able to answer – if no adultery went on, then why is Todd being restored for it – or on schedule for it? Derr – basic elementary question?! No adultery and no restoration needed – right?
Peter Kirk will contiually use any excuse he can to avoid the truth – why? He deleted all the verified comments by Ricciardelli, proven to be actually by Ricciardelli, because he did not like their content about the affair having gone on longer than Lakeland, and then added insult to injury by making excuses and distorting as to why he removed them from his site. He hates the truth about Todd and Lakeland.
As for the ‘character assasination’/libel, Kirk has had no qualms at all about criticising and slandering me [in the true sense of slander - being untrue and defamatory and unproven and not based on fact, not merely speaking out aa warning bout evident proven facts in the public domain] .
It is only ok to criticise on his side. How come it is Ok for him to criticise and not me? – the hypocrit!
He calls the Bentley critics demonised. Yet they tell the truth and use an equal plumbline, are not hypocritical with dual standards, and align with scripture and facts. Kirk does not but feels free to criticise without evidence or proof and despite the facts. So just who, if anything, is more likely to be demonised here?
“It’s only adultery if it’s in the presence of 2 or 3 witnesses”
That’s what she said!
Oh yeah. Up high.
i did enjoy reading polycarp say he didn’t want to ‘feel up’ your carnival comments scott. i hope he doesn’t ‘feel’ them up either!
Freudian slip… But as long as I don’t make a habit out of it, I should be okay.
Congratulations Scott. Bentley, Crowder and fellow BS’ers deserve MORE scorn not syrupy easy-forgiveness. This post would be funny, except for the fact that these charlatans have fleeced many thousands of people, damaged their faith, and failed to preach or live the authentic Gospel.
Peter Kirk,
Under US law, Todd Bentley is a public figure and would have to show that (a) the charge of adultery was false and (b) the statements made by Scott were done with malice. While it’s possible to make such a case, it’s VERY difficult…
Given the statements that have been made by Fresh Fire, Todd’s father, other people and Todd himself, I think any lawsuit would stop dead with (a). I think that this establishes your “two or three witnesses,” no?
Frankly, you need to leave off worshipping Todd Bentley, who has shown himself to be a liar. When push came to shove, his ministry could not prove a single one of his alleged healings to ABC News. And that’s doesn’t even include the 8, 16, 21, 23, however many resurrections Todd claimed to have performed.
Mirele, I don’t know about US law. I know that under English law a libel defendant would at least have to provide good reason for believing that the accusation was true. And there is no such good reason, no basis for an accusation of physical adultery except for repeated speculation.
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