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Rick Pino: Most Repressed Worship Leader Ever?

September 15, 2010

Some of you may not remember Rick Pino; he’s the Worst Worship Ever dude. Recently, one of his fans dropped by Scotteriology. Their rhetoric is pretty much the same across the board: God’s doing something new; heart of true worship; judge not; you have no right to judge, blah blah blah, etc.

And they really like CAPS… whether it’s here or on my Youtube channel they always use CAPS to try to make their point. ALWAYS!

Anyways, Olivia, did not like my comments concerning Rick, and after twice informing me that I had “no right to speak” she suggested the following

Do yourself a favor and look up some of Rick Pino’s SONGS. Look up some of his WORK, other than just the one thing you dislike or feel you have a right to criticize… My God deserves a crazy, consistent, REAL praise.. not what looks normal to you.

All right Olivia. There’s an old saying, “Be careful what you ask for, ’cause you just might get it.” So, here’s his lyrics page. Let’s begin.

Kissed By Jesus

I’ve been kissed by Love
I’ve been kissed by Jesus

Burn For You

Jesus, no one else will do
’cause I’m burning with desire for your name

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It’s getting all like Twilight up in here. Rick’s immortal boyfriend has him pining hardcore. Surely, this is it right? I must be taking this out of context right? Let’s continue…

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How I Love You

I lay my head upon your heart
Take me to your chambers, lead me by the hand

I can’t take my eyes off of you
I can’t take my eyes off of you

Your Love is Like

Sweetness overflows, pouring from your lips
Kisses from above, let the heavens drip…

When it’s just me and you, I can’t remember storms
All I can do is melt into your arms

My Only Love

In your eyes, all-consuming fire
In your arms, all that I desire

I want to behold you, My Love
I want to be held by you, my love

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A picture of Rick Pino’s Jesus is starting to form. Is it the radical apocalyptic Galilean rabbi who fashioned a whip a drove the money lenders from the Temple, and who lost his life at the hands of vicious torture?

Ummm… not quite.

I’m too sexy for this cross! Too sexy for this tomb. So sexy it hurts!

Forget Edward and Bella, we have Rick and Jesus! Do you doubt me? Let’s see

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Gorgeous Face

Your face is what I long to see
Your eyes, piercing the depth of me

Awesome splendor
Glorious Majesty
Faithful Father
Gorgeous Face

My Romance

Look at the way the flowers bloom for You
They want to show You their beauty, Lord
Running waters dance, You and I romance

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Seriously, if I just tweaked these lyrics a little bit, and removed the Jesus references, and then told you these lyrics were written by a teenager in heat love: how many would be surprised?

Some of the songs on Rick’s page do not have lyrics attached to them. One of these songs is titled Zerubbabel. Now considering what I do academically, that’s a song title that catches my attention, because, when I think worship song, Zerubbabel is not the first name that pops into my head. So I went in search of the lyrics:

I saw (her???)
I saw (her???)
How’d I get so close so (???)

When I’m With My Daddy
My Innocence is Restored (x 10)

Restore Innocence (Oh, God???)
Restore Innocence of this Generation, Lord
Yeah!
Please Restore in the Innocence, Yeah (x4)
Please Restore in the Innocent Ones (x 3)
Innocent ones

Listen
When I’m With My Daddy, Yeah
My Innocence is Restored (x4)

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At this point, I’m confused. I have no idea what this song is about or even it’s faintest connection to Zerubbabel. My best guess is that Rick must have a study Bible, as he also has a song titled Penuel (Face to Face)–maybe we’re lucky there were no lyrics to that song available–and he just picks random cool sounding words and then writes lyrics that have nothing to do with them.

But then the next verse/chorus/ramble?

This generation’s coming out of confusion, Yeah
This generation is coming out of confusion, Yeah
This generation, Oh, is coming out of confusion
Come out of your sexual confusion
Come out of your (doctrinal?) confusion, Yeah

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After this brief lyrical review (and I’m sure there’s probably more like this), Rick, I think you should follow your own advice: Come out of your sexual confusion.

Yeah.

104 Comments leave one →
  1. September 15, 2010 11:03 am

    Those songs made me throw up a bit. I really hate songs that turn Jesus into “My Bearded Boyfriend.”

  2. MikeK permalink
    September 15, 2010 11:14 am

    I went over to listen to the “right round” youtube clip you had…I had to stop it……I might run out of commenting space trying to back my brain and heart out of what that was about: yikes.

    Those other lyrics: hmm…mighty suspect as well…I’ll give the guy an “A” or “A-” for faithfulness: an Incomplete for the trashy, self-indulgent flavor of the whole gathering

    • Headless Unicorn Guy permalink
      September 16, 2010 10:32 am

      “You spin me round
      Spin me round round JESUS round round…”

      Considering that the original song (before Cartman filked it) was about a pole-dancing stripper, I think both you and me have an appointment with a gallon of brain bleach…

  3. September 15, 2010 11:48 am

    Pino is typical of this new wave of near-erotic “worship” song writing. It makes want a sock full of quarters, and NOT for the offering plate!

  4. Jon H permalink
    September 15, 2010 3:45 pm

    “Look at the way the flowers bloom for You
    They want to show You their beauty, Lord”

    These lines sound like they were written about the tweens at his church.

    • February 16, 2012 11:09 am

      NO offense to anyone and Im sure along pino’s career he has danced in the idiot conga but some of these lyrics your bashing are straight out of the same train of thought that you find in song of songs. We are the bride he is the bride groom. If you can’t see Christ as the lover of your soul you may be missing something.

      IN summary there may be goofs that take things too far but don’t throw the baby out with the bath water when it comes to passionate worship. Intimacy and passion is what God wants more than the heartless songs of our lips.

      • February 16, 2012 3:17 pm

        Even if Song of Songs should be read allegorically (and I’m not convinced it is an allegory; I think it’s probably just an erotic poem between (among?) lovers), as symbol of the relationship between Christ and the church, Pino (and I think you, respectfully) misunderstand what an allegory is. An allegory is symbolic, not literal. Jesus and the church do not literally have an erotic, sexual relationship with each other.

      • Deborah permalink
        June 11, 2013 5:37 pm

        amen brgulkerr!

  5. Chris E permalink
    September 15, 2010 4:30 pm

    Rick Pino is Cartman and this is surely Southpark does Christian Rock, right?

    • Headless Unicorn Guy permalink
      September 16, 2010 10:32 am

      You mean you didn’t know South Park was a documentary?

  6. September 15, 2010 5:23 pm

    Sounds more like Rick wants to lose his innocence with his Daddy.

    • Headless Unicorn Guy permalink
      September 16, 2010 10:28 am

      Didn’t Ham get cursed for something similar?

  7. Gus permalink
    September 15, 2010 10:59 pm

    Im not here to try to change your mind or make you believe anything…. All I’m pointing out is this:

    America was founded on the belief of freedom. Many freedoms, one of them being freedom of FAITH. We all express our feelings on many things everyday and do not expect to be ridiculed by our friends, peers, or cowokers. Rick Pino is merely exercising his right to freedom. We dont have to like it or agree with it. As Americans, we have given people the freedom to practice whatever faith they choose. Making fun and mocking people for their religion, represents poorly, on the principles of this nation. That is how many “holy wars” have begun.

    Audre Lorde said, “It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize, accept, and celebrate those differences”.

    We will always have differences, but it is how we choose to handle them, that make us true embracers of freedom.

    • September 15, 2010 11:17 pm

      Thanks for the CAPITALS (ironic considering the above).

      “That is how many “holy wars” have begun.”

      LOL!

      Rick Pino –>Slippery slope–>Holy War. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Classic stuff. I couldn’t be funnier if I tried.

      Oh yeah, I’m not American.

      • Gus permalink
        September 16, 2010 5:04 pm

        I dont want to bother getting into a flame war or a back and forth, or to try to show that im the biggest and baddest online poster.

        Im just content to have expressed my opinion.

        • September 16, 2010 5:59 pm

          Rick Pino has the freedom of religion, and I have the freedom of expression. Please, do not come here under the guise of whatever you are trying to accomplish and assert that his freedom somehow supersedes mine. I am allowed to say whatever I want about him, especially when he writes lyrics and takes part in a faith as vapid as his.

    • katie permalink
      September 16, 2010 8:32 am

      I’m not nearly as concerned with how “Making fun and mocking people for their religion, represents poorly, on the principles of this nation” as I am with how Rick Pino poorly represents Christianity.

    • September 16, 2010 8:50 am

      Im not here to try to change your mind or make you believe anything…. All I’m pointing out is this:

      Amuricuh was founded on the belief of freedom. Many freedoms, one of them being freedom of SPEECH. We all express our feelings on many things everyday and do not expect to be pontificated at by our friends, peers, or cowokers. Scott Bailey is merely exercising his right to freedom. We dont have to like it or agree with it. As Amuricans, we have given people the freedom to express whatever opinions they choose. Chastising and self-righteously chiding people for their opinion, represents poorly, on the principles of this nation. That is how many “flame wars” have begun.

      Thomas Szasz said, “When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to laugh at him”.

      We will always have differences, but it is how we choose to handle them, that make us true embracers of freedom.

      • September 16, 2010 10:37 am

        Well played Michael.😉

        Americuh!

    • September 30, 2010 12:28 pm

      Um, freedom of religion/speech does not equal immunity from criticism.

  8. September 16, 2010 3:13 am

    Going to have to disagree with you there Gus. If you want less “holy wars” the absolute worst course of action would be to have everyone constantly walking on eggshells to make sure that they never ever accidentally offend the religious beliefs of someone else. All this does is to feed the religious ego and to encourage the idea that it’s OK to get violent when someone doesn’t find your precious beliefs as precious as you do.

    The way to stop “holy wars” is to disabuse believers of the notion that no one should be allowed to criticize or ridicule your beliefs. Freedom of faith means you are free to believe whatever you want. It does not mean you have the right to never be offended, it does not mean everyone has to respect your beliefs and it certainly does not mean no one is allowed to laugh at you when you do something ridiculous.

    The right to mock and disagree with the beliefs of another is essential to a free society. If “freedom of faith” meant that we were forced to respect the beliefs of the Rick Pino’s of the world, then we would be equally forced to respect Scientology telling people not to use psych meds, Muslims committing murder over a drawing and those Mormons living in desert compounds with a harem of 12 year olds.

    • Headless Unicorn Guy permalink
      September 16, 2010 10:29 am

      If you want less “holy wars” the absolute worst course of action would be to have everyone constantly walking on eggshells to make sure that they never ever accidentally offend the religious beliefs of someone else. All this does is to feed the religious ego and to encourage the idea that it’s OK to get violent when someone doesn’t find your precious beliefs as precious as you do.

      Type example: “AL’LAH’U AKBAR!” and accusations of Islamophobia (TM).

      • Gus permalink
        September 16, 2010 5:16 pm

        I disagreed with the original blog entry but that does not mean that I intended to get violent about it, nor approve of others doing so.

        Childishly mimicking someone’s post does nothing to show how competent people can express their opinions in an educated manner.

        I do agree though that walking on eggshells is not the answer… It’s just seems to me that this article is a bit below-the-belt… (Childish respones about the waist ensuing…)

        • September 16, 2010 6:00 pm

          Actually, the only “below-the-belt” in the article is Rick’s ‘longing’ for a male figure to lead him to his chamber by the hand. *shudder*

          The article merely represents his actual lyrics.

    • Gus permalink
      September 16, 2010 5:30 pm

      Rick Pino does not hurt anyone the way that “Muslims committing murder over a drawing and those Mormons living in desert compounds with a harem of 12 year olds” do.

      Sharing our thoughts with such blatant disrespect for the beliefs of others does nothing but give room for the radicals to act out… i.e. The guy from “burn a Korans day” causing such an uproar over his expressions that it may cause harm to the troops in Afghanistan…

      Im open to hearing your opinions and im glad that you shared them in a tasteful manner.

      • October 19, 2010 2:31 am

        My point is simply that the freedom to criticize religious practices you find silly is no different from the freedom to criticize religious practices you find evil. Its the same thing, it all falls under freedom of expression. If you only have that right sometimes then you don’t really have it at all.

        If someone criticizes a belief you hold dear the best response is to answer the criticism and defend your position – that gives the opportunity for everyone to learn something. The worst way to respond to criticism is to demand that the things you love be immune to criticism from others who disagree. That is the way back to the Dark Ages. Discussion and debate is the way forward. Making the criticism of any idea or practice a taboo is not.

  9. Headless Unicorn Guy permalink
    September 16, 2010 10:19 am

    And they really like CAPS… whether it’s here or on my Youtube channel they always use CAPS to try to make their point. ALWAYS!

    Nothing says “Kook Rant” like ALL CAPS!!!!

    Except maybe BOLDFACE ALL CAPS!!!!!!!!!

  10. Headless Unicorn Guy permalink
    September 16, 2010 10:27 am

    So, here’s his lyrics page. Let’s begin.

    Kissed By Jesus

    I’ve been kissed by Love
    I’ve been kissed by Jesus

    Burn For You

    Jesus, no one else will do
    ’cause I’m burning with desire for your name

    Just out of curiosity, are the lyrics credited to “Eric Cartman of South Park”? Because this is straight out of South Park‘s CCM episode — “Just take 20-year-old pop songs and substitute “Jesus” for “Ooooo Baby!”

    It’s getting all like Twilight up in here. Rick’s immortal boyfriend has him pining hardcore. Surely, this is it right? I must be taking this out of context right?

    1) I’m not the only one to notice it! “JESUS IS MY EDWARD CULLEN! SPARKLE SPARKLE SPARKLE SQUEEEEEEE!”

    2) Rick here is male, right?

  11. September 16, 2010 11:29 am

    This post should be the wikipedia entry for Jesus is my boyfriend worship. Would save me a lot of explaining.

  12. September 18, 2010 5:21 pm

    Is the church a self-reinforcing culture of ignorance?

  13. September 23, 2010 3:22 am

    ya; that’s pretty funny.🙂

  14. Jesse Watkins permalink
    September 23, 2010 9:50 am

    Hey Guys. Since you have such a problem with the words Rick Pino uses in expressing worship to God, let me remind you of the words God chooses to use for his “Wife.”

    Hosea 2:19 – I will make you my wife forever,
    showing you righteousness and justice,
    unfailing love and compassion.
    20I will be faithful to you and make you mine,
    and you will finally know me as the Lord.

    You forget that we are the bride of Christ. He is literally going to marry us and we will fall in love with him for eternity. Until you are ready to sing songs of his love, you won’t be ready for heaven.

    • September 23, 2010 9:56 am

      “Until you are ready to sing songs of his love, you won’t be ready for heaven.”

      Just Jesus for you Jesse? No? You need something with your Jesus? How about Jesus and something else? But what should it be? What else other than Jesus will get you ready for heaven? Oh yeah, Rick Pino songs!?!

      This is “Jesus And…” theology. Jesus and circumcision. Jesus and the Law. Jesus and…

      And here I thought God decided who got into heaven, and all along it’s really Jesse. Who knew? Think much of yourself? Much too much.

      Jesse, perhaps, you might want to pick up a commentary and find out the context of Hosea and who it is written to before you make it a defense of Rick’s over-sexualized lyrics.

    • September 30, 2010 12:36 pm

      He is literally going to marry us and we will fall in love with him for eternity

      No, not literally. The texts you mentioned are clearly and obviously metaphorical, not literal.

  15. Jesse Watkins permalink
    September 23, 2010 10:02 am

    Salvation is falling in love with Jesus, and Heaven is being married to Jesus forever. It’s not over-sexualized, its Agape love. I’m not saying we have to sing Rick Pino songs, but if we have problems with talking about the extravagant love of Christ, then how can that love be dwelling within us?

    • September 23, 2010 10:07 am

      Dude, read the lyrics above. They are not Agape love, they are Eros. I have made no comment at all about the extravagant love of Jesus. If you want to talk about that, go ahead, knock yourself out. However, if you are going to express that like this

      I lay my head upon your heart
      Take me to your chambers, lead me by the hand

      I can’t take my eyes off of you
      I can’t take my eyes off of you

      I might suggest you are missing the point… Jesus does not want to have a sexual relationship with Rick no matter how many songs he writes about it, or how much Rick desires it.

      • Bell permalink
        February 13, 2012 11:23 am

        Have you read Song of Soloman? It is descriptive of the relationship Christ has with His bride the Church, (Believers).

        • February 13, 2012 11:24 am

          Solo man?

    • September 23, 2010 11:17 am

      Wait…what? Salvation is falling in love with Christ?

      I thought salvation was deliverance from sin, death, and the Devil because of Christ’s death on the Cross.

      Looks like theologians have gotten it wrong for the past 2,000 years.

  16. Jesse Watkins permalink
    September 23, 2010 10:32 am

    God created the natural to reflect the spiritual. When man and woman become one through intimacy, it is a reflection of the spiritual intimacy that happens when Jesus puts a New Spirit within us. He comes and dwells inside us. I don’t know if you have ever danced in worship. I don’t know if you have ever sat at the feet of Jesus in his presence and have wanted to stay there forever. Those that have experienced the presence of Jesus like that understand the lyrics which Rick Pino is talking about. I’m not saying you have to worship that way, but just because you don’t understand those who experience the presence of Jesus in an intimate way doesn’t mean we have to put down other members of the Body of Christ.

    • September 23, 2010 10:38 am

      Yes Jesse, I don’t “understand”… I don’t understand how you can defend such stupidity. Experience is not the final validation, as experience can often be wrong. This is simply what it means to be human, and such a given that if you do not understand this, it is pointless to explain it.

      That’s why the Weslyan quadrilateral is a good way to do theology as it takes a person away from the gross monster and distorter of ‘experience’ and gives some checks and balances.

      I tell you what I do “understand”… if even Jesus himself told you this was not valid, you’d still not listen. Why bother?

      I stand by what I wrote. How do I know? Because my experience says what Rick does is bogus. So Jesse, whose experience is more valid?

    • Casey permalink
      October 12, 2010 3:08 pm

      I know what you’re talking about!!!!!!!! This worship style is amazing, if it wasn’t what God had intended then why are there so many worship leaders writing and/performing songs like this, that have led so many people to or back to Jesus. it’s amazing

    • Tyler permalink
      March 22, 2011 4:36 pm

      Amen, I totally agree with you Jesse. I think that most of the people on this page probably dont know that worship means to kiss, lol thought that was hilarious…. But, if you look at Rick’s songs and other lyrics, he has many songs that are for warfare and yet those are not thrown up for discussion. I believe most of the people in the Church have a problem with this “abnormal” worship (or so they call it), because perhaps they themselves do not have an intimate relationship with the Father (if the shoe fits, then there you have it). Jesse, you said it, when we step into the Throne Room of the King we can’t help but just want to hang out in His Presence. One thing I read that some people got correct, was that Rick Pino’s music is not “christian”. People have asked me what type of music I listen too and I honestly don’t have an answer hahaha. The only music I want to hear is the noise of worship that rips open the heavens and brings the Glory down

  17. September 30, 2010 12:43 pm

    These songs are loaded with “That’s what she said moments.”

    Come to think of it, maybe The Office should do an episode where they visit Rick’s church?

  18. roger permalink
    October 4, 2010 12:23 pm

    I just want to throw out that the old testament uses the same word that described Adam and Eve’s “knowing” (sexual intimacy) between each other, and also to describe how God “knows” us. The word is Yadá and it mean to learn or perceive through intimate experience. Psalm 31:7 is one example: “I will be glad and rejoice in thy mercy: for thou hast considered my trouble; thou hast known (yadá) my soul in adversities…”

    God can have intimate experience with my soul? Sounds like there’s some stuff I need to get comfortable with being uncomfortable with, the same word describing sex in Genesis 4, is the same word used to describe how God knows me, and I can know Him…

    While, I can certainly understand where you’re coming from by being weirded out by Rick, but it seems that David and other psalmists were similarly “twitterpated” by their God.

    I think we could make more fun of the Bible, if you pull those silly Song of Songs out… oh, wait, that’s metaphoric language and symbolic poetry…but, then, I could imagine a lot of worship songs are symbolic and poetic, not to be taken literal. What if Rick really didn’t mean God was physically going to take his hand and take him to His actual chambers and get physically intimate. It’s almost like we are actually spiritual beings, and intimacy in the spirit is just so hard for us to grasp in this earthly context, cause all we’ve ever known of intimacy is bodily sex.

    I think Rick can be utterly ridiculous at times, but what’s he leading people into? A lot of people are gonna start to think that life is all about a personal relationship with Jesus! And they’ll pray to Jesus as if He’s a lover? “Jesus, lover of my soul” must be taken out of every church! It’ll lead to intimacy with the One who IS love! Preposterous! It’s not just Rick! It’s been around since hymnals were written! Since the Bible! Lord save us from our minds.

    1 Corinthians 2:14

    • October 4, 2010 4:41 pm

      Roger,

      I just want to throw out that you are committing an exegetical fallacy: one meaning fallacy. Many words have what is called ‘polysemy’, thus words can have a variety of significations, and one word can have several meanings.

      Easy example. A) “He went for a run.” B) “I’m just going to run to the store.”

      In the first the physical action of running is meant, in the second the intended meaning is that I’m going to the store quickly.

      Furthermore yada is being used euphemistically when it talks about a man “knowing” his wife, and means something very, very different then when it talks about God “knowing” us (non-euphemistic language).

      The context of a word in its own setting provides its meaning. To transfer all contexts and meanings into one is an amateur exegetical error.

      So, sorry, but in this case you are wrong.

      Lord thank you for my mind, and for not “saving” me from it. Roger, unfortunately you only have part of the equation, so instead of following your advice to abandon thinking and love like an imbecile something I’ve created, I will follow Deuteronomy’s advice and Jesus: And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.”

    • Tyler permalink
      March 22, 2011 4:41 pm

      Haha Roger this is awesome!! I’m afraid that the Church is at war against religion, pride, ignorance and greed, and unfortunately it was this “church” culture that crucified Jesus. “Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.” Matt 6:10. Lets bring down the Kingdom Culture, long live the King!

  19. Casey permalink
    October 12, 2010 3:04 pm

    okay, so this really gets me mad. You do realize we are the bride of Christ, correct? and Song of Solomon has so much symbolism and it applies to us as christians and our relationship with Jesus. Jesus is the beloved, and we are his. So there is absolutely nothing wrong with this style of worship. I’m sorry if you prefer to think otherwise of God- whatever, we all have a right to our opinions. But there are many artists who have this style of worship. So are they all just crazy worship leaders who God is gonna say “oh there just a bit obsessed. Crazy, if you will”. I highly doubt that. These people have been majorly influenced by the Holy Spirit to bring about a new style of intense, symbolic, poetic, and real worship. I’m so sorry it’s not what you’re used to. I doubt i’ll change your mind, you look like a know-it-all christian theologian etc, whatever. But you’ll see. God is going to use this worship to influence more and more people, and its going to very soon influence YOU. A lot.

    • October 12, 2010 5:05 pm

      Casey, I come from the movement that introduced intimate worship, love songs sung to Jesus. But if you look at the music of the early Vineyard there was a reverence there too. I think that is what is lacking in the newer rehashes of what we already did (your claim that this is new is just wrong). The other thing that is troubling is how much like the Moravian excesses this looks like. Pick up a history book sometime and read about the Sifting-Time (1743-1750) for that movement – it wasn’t pretty. Chief amongst their activities was a similar reading of SoS, sexualising their relationship with God. This is what happens when we obsess over a particular interpretive framework for a text of scripture – much like Bickle’s obsession over SoS in a very Guyonesque note. There is good and bad that can come out of it, but I’m not that confident that the proponents of this new sexualisation have the wisdom to sift through it.

      I speak as one who loves intimacy with the Lord, loves intimate worship. But in that most intimate place we discover that the Lord is God and we are not.

      On another note, I really question how effective newer forms of the charismatic movement are at winning converts. I think they make a lot of transfer growth assuming that this represents true conversion. That sort of elitism is not helpful nor honest. Just my two cents.

      • Casey permalink
        October 15, 2010 2:49 pm

        Just by the way, im only 14. I may be top of my sophomore class, but those are some big words you’re using. Also, on some levels i completely agree with you. There are some people who sexualize their relationship with God. But I dont think of it that way; I would never defile God like that. gross. And sorry for the inaccurate dates/timelines, whatever, my point was there are a lot of recent songs and artists like this. Anyways Rick Pino’s and many other music artists are anointed, and there’s nothing wrong with it. Some people interpret it the wrong way, but I don’t my family doesn’t. My friends don’t. My church and youth group don’t. And it bugs me that people think music like this is wrong and disgusting, because it isn’t. Also, Mike Bickle is awesome. Just saying (teenager in me coming out, as if it hasn’t already)

        • October 16, 2010 8:56 am

          Casey,

          Your immaturity theologically and argumentatively in this conversation is telling. You know how everyone around you interprets stuff? You can read everyone’s mind? You commit stunning leaps in ‘logic’ that have little to do with the original argument, espouse them as if they are self-evident, and then believe they lead to some sort of sustainable and satisfactory conclusion. You would, of course, be wrong. You have little context and knowledge for what is going on here.

          In this conversation there are theologians (that doesn’t make them “know-it-alls”, it makes them people who have spent a great deal of time studying the Bible so they can have a semi-coherent response other than “I don’t know k. just cause, like that how I like, like it.”), there are pastors, and worship leaders who have gone through the process of leading congregations in worship.

          You might, at the tender age of 14, want to listen to those with much greater knowledge, experience, and understanding.

          There are such things as good theologies and bad theologies, and just so you know–because you come from such an insular and inbred form of Christianity–the majority, the vast, vast majority of Christian pastors, laymen, and theologians think Mike Bickle is one of the most theologically inept people on the planet.

          • Casey permalink
            October 17, 2010 10:16 am

            I know there are good and bad theologies. But who are you to deem what worship is acceptable and unacceptable in the eyes of God? i’ll worship how I want, and I know that this worship isn’t disgusting or whatever big words you want to use. No matter how smart you are (I’m sure you are very intellectual and think you know what’s right and wrong in worship and everything else), you can’t say you know what God thinks, what God feels, and what His plan is for worship. I guess we’ll find out in Heaven when we stand before God. So call me stupid, immature, and wrong- it doesn’t matter. I’ll worship how I want, and God is just fine with my worship. Why can’t you be?

            • Cordelia permalink
              December 5, 2013 9:57 pm

              how do you know God is just fine with your worship?

          • October 17, 2010 11:14 am

            “I’ll worship how I want.” Do you not get that this is hedonism? I fully get that there is a place for immaturity and devotional leaps. But there is also a time for growing up. The question you should make friends with is “why?” Why do you like worshiping this way? What does it do for you? But ask the bigger questions as well: What does this do for the Church? Why would I think God likes it? Why do I think I have such privileged information on how God feels about my worship? What does that say about me?

            My problem here is that you’ve made an intimacy leap into a normative for Christian worship. So you are not only just being focused on your felt needs, but you are projecting them onto the community experience – is that just to validate your own felt needs? Have you ever asked the question, “what if God merely tolerates this hoping you will grow beyond it?”

            I say this with compassion, I am embedded in the movement that started this current trend towards love songs directed towards Jesus. And I’m also a person who loves it when I’m enraptured in intimate moments of worship. But we also cannot forget that intimacy can easily become twisted – just ask any married couple about their struggles with intimacy. It takes a lot of work to have healthy intimacy. It takes a lot of reflection on our own attitudes, motivations and actions. It takes a lot of listening. The googly, feel-good moments are never the constant here – enjoyable as they are. What lasts are the serious matters of commitment, covenant, sacrifice, and determined love. If you build your spirituality around anything less it will eventually fail you – and you will likely blame God.

            As for Bickle, I lost all respect for him years ago when he publicly belittled Steve Witt for not being a “real” prophet like him. This was at a big conference and Steve has been committed for many years to helping people hear and process God’s voice. Such self-importance is the fruit of hedonistic theology – much as we are critiquing here.

            • Casey permalink
              October 17, 2010 2:43 pm

              I don’t worship God with these type of songs for the “feel good” moment. Your right, if that’s all i get out of it, it will fail me. All i’ve been meaning to say is that there is nothing wrong with it. And just as an honest question, in your opinion, how should we worship God? What songs are appropriate, and when should we use certain songs in worship? does all that even matter? I mean, it’s worship. If my heart is in the right place…. I don’t know. No, I don’t have all the answers. I don’t know what God thinks or feels about my worship. I’m a stupid, ignorant little girl who loves God and just wants His approval. I don’t just worship God to feel His presence, because I always feel His presence when I worship. I worship God with different songs, even just going with it during worship and singing “a new song” or “spontaneous worship” all the time. I just want to worship God….

              • Chris E permalink
                October 17, 2010 2:45 pm

                Careful with where you point that thing – Nadab and Abihu also probably thought that everything was fine as long as their heart was in the right place.

            • October 17, 2010 2:59 pm

              I’m not claiming to have all the answers either. But as a worship leader myself (as well as an academic theologian) I reflect on that a lot.

              Dorothee Soelle would say that if you show me the songs a community sings I’ll tell you what kind of God they worship. She is drawing from an old idea that the content of worship influences what we believe and that what we believe also influences what we will sing. So when I am bringing in new songs I care deeply (as should you if you are a worship leader) about the content of those songs.

              Just cause a song makes us feel good is not enough. Song’s should provide a place for the possibility of encountering God. But that encounter should transform us to be more like God. It should make us lovers of justice, restorers of relationship and humble walkers with God.

              If you want to have a conversation about this offline, where we can walk through this a bit I’d be more than happy to. You can email me at church (at) freedomvineyard (dot) com, just replace the at and dot.

              • Jake permalink
                October 17, 2010 7:15 pm

                So this is what it’s like to read Japanese texts…

                • October 18, 2010 9:17 am

                  If this discussion is going to continue–and it shouldn’t because if Jesus himself showed up and told Casey anything different than what she already thinks, she wouldn’t listen–at least start a new discussion thread!

                  • October 18, 2010 11:55 am

                    But this one is so close to breaking all of our computer monitors!

    • October 12, 2010 7:24 pm

      You do realize we are the bride of Christ, correct?

      Casey, in your view, where does this analogy end? Will Christ consummate his marriage to the church by having sexual relations with us/it?

      I’d assume your answer would be, “No,” which I’d agree with. But my agreement isn’t the point. The point is that every Christian stops the analogy at some point; it breaks down for all of us. Scott’s made his case for why he stops it sooner. What’s your case for taking it as far as you do?

      • Casey permalink
        October 15, 2010 2:42 pm

        It’s worship. Sure being the bride of Christ is an analogy, but at the same time it’s pure truth. It’s who we are. We were created to worship God, to love Him, to rest in His presence. What’s wrong with us saying things like “awesome splendor”, “I am my Beloved’s and He is mine”? or any other of the songs by Misty Edwards, Rick Pino, Matt Gilmon, Kim Walker, Audra Lynn, etc etc etc. I could go on and on about all the artists that have created this beautiful, passionate worship. What’s my case for it, you ask? People have been saved. people have been baptized in the Holy Spirit. I’ve felt the presence of the Holy God and seen a vision through music that has been called perverted and meaningless. The worship is so anointed by God; if He approves then I approve. God moves, His presence abides where the music is played.
        And why do I take the analogy ‘so far’? I honestly don’t really k now. But Jesus is my beloved, I am His, I’ll worship Him in ways that He deserves. He doesn’t deserve some half-hearted “I’m trading my sorrows,” off-beat barely clapping hands crap. He deserves me, crying out to Him, on my face bowing before Him and singing praises that are said to be stupid and undignified. David was undignified before God, and just like him, I’ll become more undignified.

      • October 15, 2010 2:52 pm

        “People being saved” is not a sufficient justification. Before you get angry about that, let me explain. Mike Warnke got a lot of people saved with his story about being a former drug lord and Satanist priest, and his story was a total lie. Was it okay for him to lie b/c people were saved? Were the people who exposed him as a lying charlatan in the wrong? Or better yet, Judas’ betrayal directly led to the crucifixion of Jesus, which is our redemption. Does that make Judas’ betrayal any less monstrous?

        In the same way, just because songs get people saved, does that justify their bad theology?

        • Casey permalink
          October 16, 2010 8:05 am

          It’s not bad theology. It’s different. And I don’t really care how you worship God, but this is how I worship Him, and as far as I’m concerned it doesn’t make me any more or less of a christian, worshipper, or worship leader.

    • October 14, 2010 1:36 pm

      Casey,
      I’m a dyke… so I guess that means I can’t marry Jesus. I’ll give back the ring, though.

  20. October 14, 2010 1:33 pm

    Oh come on, people! Rick Pino’s stuff is so awful it has become priceless. And it is super gay. I confess, this blog made my day.

    Sadly, Christians continually feel it is their duty to inform us about our freedoms and the foundational base of our country’s beginnings while regularly making sure that those of who have actually come out of the closet don’t have any.

    Maybe their support of Ricky here is their closeted way of saying it is okay to be gay!😀

  21. The Texas Guy permalink
    October 15, 2010 5:23 pm

    David was undignified before God, and just like him, I’ll become more undignified.

    I love that. David danced so hard with just a linen robe, and no undergarments, that his junk jumped all about in full view of everyone – kind of gives a whole new meaning to “worship package”!

    His wife was scandalized (probably rightly so – since priests were specifically forbidden to climb the altar steps without undergarments so that their “nakedness” wouldn’t show) and she expressed herself to David. Rather that listening to what his wife was really saying (since her attitude was pretty pissy), he responds, “Oh yeah, well you ain’t seen nothing yet!” No, the problem David, is that we did see something – something that we shouldn’t have seen in “worship”.

    And so we have David’s famous saying, “I will be undignified, and more undignified still”, and we take that as though it is an encouragement for us to do similar stuff to show how committed we are to worship – which has led to behavior that only demonstrated that we should be committed…

    I really, REALLY hope you don’t become that you don’t plan on becoming that “undignified”…

    • Casey permalink
      October 17, 2010 10:06 am

      I don’t. I was using that as an example.

    • October 17, 2010 11:21 am

      But the problem is that I’ve seen what kinda stuff happens when inhibitions are down and it becomes all about how “I” feel in the moment. Worship is a community affair. Before we idolize a moment of Davids life and call it normative we need to understand it in context. The context for public worship is community. If you are a worship leader, as it seems you have indicated, then you need to reflect on how you are leading a corporate act directed towards a Holy God (whom I have little doubt you passionately love). Leadership means thinking these things through.

  22. TheTexasGuy permalink
    October 17, 2010 4:10 pm

    Let me throw this into the discussion again, “When did worship become about something that made ME feel good”. I thought worship was for God, and not “for” me. So… the feel-good issues have to be carefully thought through.

    I was in the massive Hillsong conference a number of years ago when Louie Giglio looked out at the crowd (15 – 20 thousand) and said, “I think I’ve earned the right to say this – since I sponsor worship seminars and have the Passion worship music label – but the question that REALLY troubles me is, “Are we consuming worship, or is worship consuming us”?

    That, IMHO, is an ever-present good question to be asking of ourselves as worshippers, worship leaders, and congregants.

    • October 17, 2010 5:35 pm

      The problem with that is that worship actually is all about the participant. God doesn’t need worship, but worshiping does actually transform us, at least it has that potential. So I think that is a good question – consuming worship. But I think that if worship is consuming you (which I think he meant as the positive) then that means it is actually changing us, transforming us to be more and more like God. I am convinced that is the reason God would desire worship. Otherwise you have a god who is on an ego trip, and that sort of god is not worthy of worship to begin with.

      I think that if we took more seriously how worship is for the worshiper we’d have a better quality of worship development in our churches. It is when we pretend it is for God but instead make it serve our selfish desires that it becomes an insidious problem.

  23. Rev Fred Jensen permalink
    December 15, 2010 11:13 am

    Jesus was a punk.

    • The Texas Guy permalink
      December 15, 2010 4:11 pm

      Wow, in the context of this post, and all the comments above, this comment made SO much sense. Thank you…

  24. January 18, 2011 7:49 pm

    how dare you say those things?! Blasphemy is unforgivable! he’s just expressing his intimate love to God.. you green-minded people! how dare you?!

    • Bell permalink
      February 13, 2012 10:59 am

      Although those statements expressed are not desirable or true the only sin not forgivable is unbelief and rejecting Christ. So choose life and believe.

  25. donnie permalink
    March 5, 2011 2:52 pm

    has anyone on this page actually met him???and talked with him???ive actually had a conversation with him.he is legit..very annointed.why would we be called the “bride of christ”?im not saying we should have sexual thoughts and want to have relations with jesus….neither is rick.we are supposed to love Christ more than anything…even our wives and kids…thats pretty intimate…pretty powerful intimate love for the one who saved our souls.

  26. lilli permalink
    July 15, 2011 7:27 am

    I’ve been in live worship services with rick pino. If you don’t understand what worship is, of course your not going to understand. His songs are definitely different from bubblegum jesus loves me this I know songs. It’s intimate worship songs. It’s raising your hands and telling God you love and believe in Him. I’ll be honest, rick Pino isn’t my favorite, but he’s written some beautiful worship song and as a person he is very deep and knows scripture. He’s not gay for Jesus like you’ve pretty much said. He’s trying to incourage people not to just be a christian on sunday, he wants us to know Jesus, t pray constantly, to seek Him daily. Not to be passive in our believe like 95% of christians are, going to church every sunday doesn’t make you a christian, loving God, loving others, and making the world a better place is what a real Christian is suppose to do. It just bothers me that you think he’s in love in a gross way with God. It’s not at all like that. Listen to one of his songs, close your eyes and think of how awesome God is while it’s playing. Maybe it won’t make you uncomfortable but help you realize God loves you more than you can imagine and our ultimate goal is to be with Him. To experience Heaven, to hug Him and say, “i can’t believe I’m here with you, my Savior” the Hell on earth I experienced was worth it just to see your face………

    • July 15, 2011 9:52 am

      What you are attempting in your comment (very poorly I might add) is the No True Scotsman Argument.

      Unfortunately, because you are so very ignorant (in the sense that you possess very little actual knowledge, and are like a fish swimming in water unaware of the water), you understand nothing about the sociology and emotional psychology in the intense emotional spiritual self-masturbation sessions Rick tries to create.

      I don’t just think Rick is in love with God in a ‘gross’ way. I believe he is a closeted homosexual (which is a word that is not used as a pejorative at this site) which is why his ‘intimacy’ is expressed man-on-man, and that he would be a lot happier if he came out of the closet and admitted his true sexual orientation.

  27. Goe M.S. permalink
    January 6, 2012 2:02 am

    YOU GUYS DID NOT REALLY KNOW THE SCRIPTURES AND DEEP MEANING OF IT. BIBLE IS A BOOK OF ROMANCE! IT’S A BOOK OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GO AND MANKIND. JESUS IS CALLED OUR BRIDEGROOM AND WE AS BELIEVERS ARE CONSIDERED AS HIS BRIDE. RICK PINO SIMPLY EXPRESSES HIS DEEP LOVE AND RELATIONSHIP FOR JESUS. IF THE BIBLE IS NOT THE BOOK OF ROMANCE BETWEEN GO AND MANKIND, THEN, DON’T BELIEVE IT AND TEAR THE PARTS OF THE BIBLE THAT TALKS ABOUT LOVE, RELATIONSHIP AND ROMANCE…….GOD CREATED IN HIS OWN IMAGE……TO EXPRESS OUR FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS TO HIM. SOMETIMES IN LIFE, WE TRY TO READ OTHERS’ LYRICS OR WORDS WITH OUR OWN LENSES.

    READ YOU BIBLE AGAIN: IT’S FULL OF ROMANCE AND LOVE. LOVE ITSELF ORIGINATES FROM THE HEARTBEAT OF GOD. DON’T JUDGE OTHERS! I’M HERE NOT ‘RICK PINO’ OR FOR SOMEONE ELSE. YOUR DOCTRINE AND MINE AMY DIFFER. NO MATTER WHAT: THE BIBLE SPEAKS VOLUME ON LOVE AND RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD AND MANKIND. IN FACT, WE AS BELIEVERS, ON SOMEDAY WILL MARRY OUR ‘BRIDEGROOM JESUS CHRIST!’

  28. Jeremiah permalink
    February 8, 2012 7:25 am

    If I we’re you I wouldn’t be judging him it seems to me that he’s in love with God so I would be lookin where your heart and soul is not his never mock a man for how he worships God because in the end it’s not Rick Pino that will deal with you it God so go ahead and see where posts like these get you

    • brgulker permalink
      February 8, 2012 7:26 am

      Sentence fragment.

  29. Bell permalink
    February 13, 2012 10:48 am

    God is spirit and you can only know Him through your spirit. Rick is speaking of a love that is far more satisfying and deeper than physical love. God is love and every good or perfect gift comes from Him. Why dis this guy who knows the presents of an intiment relationship with his Creator. Christ is about relationship. If there is something about this that repulses you it could be the mindset you have about intmacy. Not all intimacy is physical. Find out the Truth before you reject such a great relationship.

  30. Bell permalink
    February 13, 2012 11:17 am

    The truth of it is God is so in love with us. He sees us before we ever are able to speak His name. Taste and see that He is good. He is not angry at His own people but we are forgiven of our sin state through Christ. Death is th price of sin….Jesus paid that debt for us so God sees us as perfect, complete. If we are not in relationship with Christ and do not accept that He paid for this sin, then God does not see us as perfect or complete..for we are not. We were born in the state of sin or still born you might say. Our spirit is dead but through Christ our spirit is reborn and we become alive and are reconciled to God. He is no longer angry at us for this is when he sees us as perfect, complete. No works you can do to have this salvation. You either accept it or reject it..(Him). Life is difficult no mater if you are Christian (with realtionship with Christ) or an unbeliever of Christ. The difference is that Believers have peace through times of trouble and times of goodness. ‘Inner peace… There is a plan and purpose for our lives..to not be walking around aimlessly bumping into life situations. Believers have a way of escape from troubles that do come. There is asurance eternity with God our Father. There is no more arguing and wrestling with origin, purpose, intent. Our debt is settled. No more guilt, unquenchable sorrow, pain or abandonment. We have a place in God’s government that will have no end. Come join. Come and live!

    • February 13, 2012 11:23 am

      So… if we are still born, does that mean god aborted us in order to resurrect us?

      • Bell permalink
        February 13, 2012 11:41 am

        Absolutely not. We are still born so to speak because our spirit is dead in us due to the separation of God and man in the Garden of Eden. God warned Adam and Eve not to eat of the tree of Knowledge or they would surely die. Every day God would come in the cool of the evening and walk with the two and communicate with them…relationship. After they ate of the Knowledge tree they could see sin, and new right from wrong. They became ashamed and tried to hid themselves and cover their nakednees on their own. God clothed them with the skin of sheep. The wages of sin is death we see again. Of course we know that later, many years later Christ came and fulfilled all the requirements to cover all our sin…He even congured death. He was the Lamb of God. So…at that point in the garden their spirits where separated from God’s intimacy. God can not look on sin…hence the blood coverings from the animals where once a year God would come in a cloud to the inner tent, the Holy of Holies to meet with the high Priest and forgive the sin of the people. So, Christ in His love for us (knowing how it was on earth and still is) willingly gave his live to conquer death and hell for our sake. I watched the movie “The Passion” , seeing all that blood and gore gave me a new perspective. How can I not worship and have intimacy with the one who did such a beautifully horrific thing just so I could know and be known by Him and His (and my) Father. I owe Him everything I am. I am not just a bond servant but a Friend of God. It is a grand adventure. Not easy. I choose life…..God calls deep to deep. The deep of you to the deep of Him. We are the reason for the crucifction not only to pay a debt we can not pay but to bring us back into relationship and intimacy with God as it was in the garden.

  31. elijahoftishbe permalink
    February 22, 2012 8:03 am

    Three comments and I’m done.

    1) I don’t understand what you are saying here… You are upset that Rick Pino sings about loving Jesus? So upset that you blog about it? The general attitude is you don’t share Rick Pino’s view of God as the husband/bridegroom/father, or at least that’s what seems to be presented. Most of this originates from Song of Songs, and Jesus Himself, and Paul. Jesus called us his bride, and Paul taught that if you want to learn to be a good husband look at Christ because He is ours.

    Now let me clearify. There is nothing erotic in this paradigm. It has nothing to do with sex. The worshippers are not literally picturing themselves making out with Jesus. If you have interpreted it that way, you have made a mistake that is easily made. A kiss is merely the highest form of affection that man can give woman (kiss standing in for physical expression in general). Because we see Through a glass darkly, we can only use earthly means to express spiritual truth. Therefore, if I was to express gratitude for Jesus lavishing his amazing (I took care to not use caps even though it would have been appropriate lol) love on me by dying for me, I can say, thank you for your kisses Jesus. I hope that helps you.

    2) Rick Pino is annointed. When He sings God shows up and moves. “Well God is everywhere” yes and no. God’s presence is sort of like fog. Fog is merely water vapor suspended in air, which is everywhere. But fog is actually when those drops manifest before our eyes. Now, you may have never experienced the manifest presence of God (not that I can see his presence like fog… Just a loose metaphor) simply because it’s not common. Most churches I’ve seen (including the charismatic Pentecostal ones) don’t have His presence manifested. However Rick Pino does, so like it or not God is pleased on some level with Him.

    3) Respectfully, I must for the sake of anyone accidentally on this page like me say that I don’t think this is a very godly source of information. You sit and blog and mock a man who you have never met, and you obviously know very little about. Sir we are the body of Christ, and we should act like cancer cells and attack our own. If you believe that you are right and Rick is wrong, perhaps your time would be better spent praying for him. With all due respect, I am shocked and ashamed to call you brother in Christ. Where is peace love joy gentleness meekness… Etc…. In all of this? Does sweet and bitter water come from the same well?

    I understand that this is probably being written off, and probably just made everyone angry, and I didn’t mean at all to do that. I simply pray that you would be blessed and that a spirit of revelation and understanding would come to you, that the eyes of your understanding would be enlightened in the knowledge of God. That the Kingdom of Heaven would be a your door, and the Spirit of Christ would guide you in all truth.

    Be blessed, and I sincerely mean that to you.

    • February 22, 2012 8:32 am

      I glanced at your comment and all I read was, “Sir we are the body of Christ, and we should act like cancer cells and attack our own.”

      OK, if you say so… because I was going to change my opinion on Rick, repent of my judgment, and change my entire theology based on your clear writing and authority. Who am I to think something different?

      But based on your wisdom and authority, I shall touch not the Lord’s anointed, nor question what you mean when you write, “Sir we are the body of Christ, and we should act like cancer cells and attack our own.”

      And I shall write even more articles about Rick!

      • Elijah permalink
        February 22, 2012 12:20 pm

        Obviously I meant we should not, which is the context of the statement. You’ll have to forgive the poor typing skills, I’ve never been one for that or spell check (lol).

      • Mikael permalink
        April 11, 2012 11:55 pm

        So filled with pride.

      • Leon permalink
        April 29, 2014 9:26 pm

        Are you just being a troll or do you really not realise that was clearly meant to be ‘shouldn’t act like cancer…”?

  32. Laura permalink
    May 19, 2012 10:12 am

    I had always thought that Rick Pino’s lyrics are based on the book of Song. Isn’t? The bride’s (church) love for Jesus?

  33. August 5, 2012 1:25 pm

    Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could worship in spirit and in truth and be concerned about the things on the heart of God that we didn’t have time to make blogs about dumb issues. You don’t know the man. So even though you can say people are known by there fruit there is no fruit in you blogging your discernment about him, because he doesn’t have the opportunity to correct himself, or explain and defend his lyrics, I’d respectfully remind you that there are actual issues that matter. Also you can’t compare someone lying about a testimony to someone who writes lyrics a way you don’t like. I got so touched by holy spirit and there was such a change in my life that came when I cultivated a lifestyle of worship, that included his tracks.

  34. August 11, 2012 11:30 pm

    You know what Rick is actually doing right? This guy is writing songs that express what the church’s relationship is supposed to look like as the bride of Christ. There is absolutely nothing sexual about it- just like the greatest love of all (God’s love for us) includes NOTHING sexual. God is the Father, the Son, our Friend, the Holy Spirit, a Bridegroom, a Savior, ect- the bible says ALL of these things. These are songs of love and whole hearted admiration. NOT perversion.

  35. April 27, 2013 6:33 pm

    Have you ever read song of Solomon? Male or female we are the bride of Christ. Anything can be taken in a sexual way, but this is how we are to love Jesus.

  36. AppleofHiseye permalink
    May 11, 2013 7:11 pm

    you are all haters. Rick Pino is incredible! Dont let the religious get to you Rick pino! Keep pressing in and keep writing!

  37. Mark permalink
    May 16, 2013 1:10 pm

    The Church is Christ’s Bride, not Mistress.

  38. Mark permalink
    May 16, 2013 2:08 pm

    Therefore, hold on to your spiritual virginity and heed the warnings of 2 Cor. 11.

  39. Reich Bailey permalink
    May 23, 2013 4:56 pm

    Apparently people don’t realize that Us, As Christians, As the Church Are the Spiritual BrideGroom of Christ. You must not realize that we are Spiritually in Union with Christ..
    We are Married to Him. Not in your Earthly matrimony, Not as a Man and a Woman. Not Sexually Joined, Not anything Even Close to what Men Think as Union, But in a way Far Deeper and Far Greater than this World.

    The Bride’s Admiration

    1“I am the rose of Sharon,
    The lily of the valleys.”

    2“Like a lily among the thorns,
    So is my darling among the maidens.”

    3“Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest,
    So is my beloved among the young men.
    In his shade I took great delight and sat down,
    And his fruit was sweet to my taste.

    4“He has brought me to his banquet hall,
    And his banner over me is love.

    5“Sustain me with raisin cakes,
    Refresh me with apples,
    Because I am lovesick.

    6“Let his left hand be under my head
    And his right hand embrace me.”

    7“I adjure you, O daughters of Jerusalem,
    By the gazelles or by the hinds of the field,
    That you do not arouse or awaken my love
    Until she pleases.”

    8“Listen! My beloved!
    Behold, he is coming,
    Climbing on the mountains,
    Leaping on the hills!

    9“My beloved is like a gazelle or a young stag.
    Behold, he is standing behind our wall,
    He is looking through the windows,
    He is peering through the lattice.

    10“My beloved responded and said to me,
    ‘Arise, my darling, my beautiful one,
    And come along.

    11‘For behold, the winter is past,
    The rain is over and gone.

    12‘The flowers have already appeared in the land;
    The time has arrived for pruning the vines,
    And the voice of the turtledove has been heard in our land.

    13‘The fig tree has ripened its figs,
    And the vines in blossom have given forth their fragrance.
    Arise, my darling, my beautiful one,
    And come along!’”

    14“O my dove, in the clefts of the rock,
    In the secret place of the steep pathway,
    Let me see your form,
    Let me hear your voice;
    For your voice is sweet,
    And your form is lovely.”

    15“Catch the foxes for us,
    The little foxes that are ruining the vineyards,
    While our vineyards are in blossom.”

    16“My beloved is mine, and I am his;
    He pastures his flock among the lilies.

    17“Until the cool of the day when the shadows flee away,
    Turn, my beloved, and be like a gazelle
    Or a young stag on the mountains of Bether.” Song of Solomon 2..
    Please, Even if you are Atheist, Read the the Word of God before you mock His Worshippers.

  40. Jordan Dorsett permalink
    July 24, 2013 11:19 pm

    As believers, the last thing that we should be doing is bashing others in the body of Christ. From scripture it is evident that we are the bride of Christ. Jesus gets furious when His bride, the church, is insulted.

    Rick is not in love with Jesus in a sexual manner. He has been drawn into a deep revelation of the passion of Jesus and the heart of the Father. If you think that Rick has passed the line with his worship you need to look at the disciple who Jesus loved.

    “Now there was leaning on Jesus’ bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved” (John 13:23). This is a literal verse which shows the deep, intimate, non-sexual relationship between Jesus and John. John consistently introduces himself as “the one whom Jesus loved.” John was really close to Jesus and I believe that believers in this modern age are called to similar, if not, deeper intimacy with Jesus.

    Jesus is not a tough, un-emotional man who is furious with man kind. He came to this world because he was moved by passionate love for and intense desire to be one with His people. Jesus is the definition of true love. In His glorious return He will let out a never before heard cry for His beloved ones. Jesus has always longed to be with us. The end of history and the beginning of eternity will be marked with a marriage supper. We were made to be one with Jesus for eternity and it is our choice to step into our relationship with Christ and to embrace Him as our Groom.

    Personally, I am unashamed to say that He is my beloved and I am His. I live to seek after Him with wholehearted love and passion. I live to delight in Him and likewise for Him to take delight in Him. To be willing to give my life and all for Him will only flow out of deep passion and intimate love for Him. After all, Christ was motivated by deep love for His beloved ones.

    Count me foolish, I don’t care about your opinion of what you think what my relationship should be with Jesus.

    I pray that you all have an encounter of the heart of the Bridegroom. I hope you experience His passion-stirred heart filled with love inexpressible..

    Bless you all in the name of Jesus.

  41. Roland permalink
    October 25, 2013 8:41 pm

    Great composition of syllables ! Now atleast you know what you came to this earth for,,,,

  42. November 17, 2013 9:21 pm

    So much Hate comin’ out of you. A lot of energy in you judgement of another mans prophetic worship. God loves everyone…no need to feel inadequate.

  43. monna permalink
    January 11, 2014 9:04 am

    I understand you disagree with everything RIck PIno is about but I believe you should at least stop making fun of him. What is this high school? If you dislike him so much just do something else or don’t listen to his songs
    And fyi learn to respect people’s beliefs because yo u don’t see a website dedicated . to make fun of something or someone you love.
    The fact that you don’t understand something does not give you the right to write whatever ideas came out of your stomach and treat them as facts
    Thanks!

  44. בֵּתוּאֵל permalink
    February 22, 2014 9:16 am

    There is something here that supersedes religious freedoms, freedom of expression, rights etc.

    What do you think Paul’s mission or any of the disciple’s mission was to propagate? For one thing “Sound Doctrine” – 1 Timothy 1:10; 1 Timothy 6:3, 1 Timothy 6:2-4; Titus 1:9;Titus 1:8-10; Titus 2:1. Were there disagreements? You bet; many of Paul’s letters were pinned as a result of false doctrine. He wanted them to know the truth “True love cares to confront.”
    For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. (Romans 10:2)

    I’ve skimmed this thing and from the majority of comments with all the eroticism and other babble (think Tower of Babel confused speech) it does not take much to know that this is some sort of emotional psychobabble that tickles someone’s senses ears (or itching ears) but without substance (kind of like empty calories).

    “True love cares to confront.”

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