Recently, Peter Kirk has authored a few posts in which he uses all of his ‘intellect’ to critique me. In one of his posts he concludes by writing,
There is another ology involved here which I cannot recommend for serious study, although sometimes it is good for a laugh: Scotteriology.
I was going to write some sort of rebuttal to Peter’s ‘wisdom’ but really: what’s the point? What am I dealing with? Let’s just take a peek at Peter’s first comment on said post:
If people actually did some research on Japanese emperors having sex with the sun goddess they would realise that this is an actual reported practice, although I guess no one outside the court knows what really happens.
This is an *actual* reported practice… oh but, “no one outside the court knows what really happens”! Could you be anymore credulous, naive, and superstitious? As far as I can tell, there was no mention prior to Peter’s comment about Japanese emperors shagging the sun goddess, so I can only assume that he is endorsing C. Peter Wagner’s argument.
Furthermore, in the comments to another post of mine, Peter is now arguing that those who can do magic-healing are enabled to do so by their invisible friends
That is not how I would see them. I understand these effects as depending on the behaviour of an intelligent being, or perhaps multiple beings, whose actions are free and at least to a large extent unpredictable – and have not necessarily given their consent and cooperation to any experiments.
To be more clear,
Those who have some kind of success are those whose healing comes out of an ongoing relationship with said beings, one which would be jeopardised by any attempt to test it.
To be even more specific
I am suggesting that the healers need to build relationships with their Creator God, who does not appreciate attempts to manipulate him. But if there is the right relationship he will act, perhaps through the mediation of angelic beings.
I wonder what the Bible has to say about praying for sickness?
Are any among you sick? They should call for the elders of the church and have them pray over them, anointing them with oil in the name of the Lord.
Huh? Where’s the special relation with the angelic being? Well, let’s be serious: when it comes to outrageous theological myth-making and speculation: we don’t want to be silly and get the Bible involved!
So where does the idea of the special relationship that you don’t want to jeopardize or the magic being will not do your bidding through the aid of angelic mediators come from… hmmmmm…
Todd Bentley; why does it always come back to Todd Bentley? Oh yeah, because when you have in the past defended him regardless of any outrageous claim that he may have made that flat-out flies in the face of any rationality, humility, and theology ( HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE, of but a few instances) and have authored such gems as
Few people alive today are following these aspects of Jesus’ example more precisely than Todd Bentley.
Eventually Jesus’ critics had him crucified. I hope and pray that Todd won’t meet a similar fate! But I also hope and pray that he, like Jesus, will remain steadfast in the face of criticism to complete the ministry which God has for him.
I believe that at Lakeland God was testing his church, at least in the West, to see if it is ready for the next step in his purposes
And one of my particular favorites
I’m sure the demons are having a field day with discussions like this [Todd Bentley’s failure], laughing aloud as they watch Christians tearing one another down and apart. These are the same ones who rejoiced in their victory of ending God’s work in the Lakeland revival, by the ancient means of sexual temptation… So these demons stir up hatred within Christians, or within those who call themselves Christians but are actually in their control, and incite them to, among other things, write hate-filled blog posts and comments (That’s right if you
disagreed with Peter, were critical of Todd, or disagreed with the lack of theology at Lakelandwrite hate-filled blog posts it’s because you are under the influence of demons!!!!! Pretty hard to argue with that logic: If you disagree with me you are demon possessed.)
Then, yeah, it might come back to that…
Now, I don’t read everything Peter writes these days, but as far as I know, Peter has not recanted his repeated and inane defense of that debacle. I would suggest that a man may be known by the silence he keeps, but it is not as if Todd has been absent from our recent conversation.
I suggested to Peter that if he was so confident in the effects of his unseen friends we could visit some hospitals in GB next time I’m on the island. His response:
Scott, I don’t claim to have a healing ministry. I suggest you follow around someone who does. Dare I suggest Todd Bentley? You just might see some things that surprise you, and I don’t only mean Todd’s boot in your stomach!
Does this comment strike anyone as someone who has stepped away from an endorsement of TB’s ministry? The same Todd Bentley who is claiming to have traveled to the third heaven to meet Paul in a cabin and chow down on some scrolls so that we could ‘know’ that Paul and Abraham (Abraham!) really wrote the book of Hebrews? And what sort of passive-aggressive “Gentle” wisdom would hope(?) that I would see Todd’s boot in my stomach?
(As an aside, I am a firm believe in non-violent conflict resolution, I work on these skills with my children daily. But Todd’s boot in my stomach? Seriously? He’s like 5’7, 280, of body fat, and I’m a 6’0, 220, ex-professional hockey player. Well, I guess if you live in the Toddly delusion he could “put his boot in my stomach.” Whatever.)
At the beginning of this post Peter suggested that he could not recommend my site for serious study. The same man who believes some healers can, but other people can’t, build a good enough relationship with invisible beings to get them to do their bidding; who believes Japanese emperors engage in “reported” physical intercourse with the sun goddess; and who endorsed/(endorses?) the lunacy of Todd Bentley.
Let me make a suggestion of my own: In no way whatsoever can I recommend the mythological speculations of “Gentle Wisdom” as ‘serious study’ but if you want to head on over for a laugh (but not at the jokes), feel free.